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Empusa Villager
Posts : 8 Join date : 2016-12-31 Location : The Netherlands
| Subject: Which models would you change and how? 5th January 2017, 2:00 pm | |
| I've read a lot of negative reactions under some of the mythological monsters and gods models, some dislike Chimera others Geryon, but which models would you change and how?
Here is my personal list:
I would personally rename the Gorgon into Fury, as I think Medusa is enough for a Gorgon and Furies aren't there. Also there are more than enough petrification enemies.
I agree with many people about the Chimera model, that one could be much better, the snake-tail should be much thicker and it shouldn't be blind-folded.
Basilisk, I think it looks better as a lizard with 8 legs, there are more than enough other snake monsters but not many reptiles.
Teumessian Fox, I agree it looks more like a big melee-based wolf than a sneaky fast fox, I would create a model that runs.
Unlike many I love the Geryon idea, if you want to please the geryon-dislikers you could also add the Makhai demon and turn that into a two or three-bodied model.
I really don't think it is a good idea to turn the Nemean Lion, Sphinx, Python, Lycaon, Dragon + Spartoi, Manticore and the Stymphalian birds into kickstarter only models, they are too important in the world of mythology to be done that way. Same for Hecate, Apollo, Bellepheron and Atlas. The others are fine I guess.
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Garshell Spartan
Posts : 141 Join date : 2016-12-29 Location : Toulouse
| Subject: Re: Which models would you change and how? 5th January 2017, 2:14 pm | |
| I like all models as they are except lycaon neck, but i can live with that =). I prefere keep all like this and get the game in time or maybe a little before than change many thing and delay the whole delivery... I think we could ask for alternative fig later IF needing. All model can't be good for all of us... We are all different and we must accept the artist vision =)). I prefere Thee Team finish the whole work first, then if they have some time, they could add some Conan cross over or more surprise like Charon or Dyonisos unit.
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Teowulff Villager
Posts : 81 Join date : 2016-12-29 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Which models would you change and how? 5th January 2017, 3:50 pm | |
| Better ask which 3 you'd like to change ..
Gorgon - looks like a dried up mummy with bat wings Pentehsilea - I would like her to be more fierce and dynamic - and less "just sexy". I also dislike the forked swords. Atalanta - give her a bow, sling looks silly Chimera - take away the blindfold Achilles - make him look like he didn't just trip over a banana peel Gaia - I would have liked her less monsterous - doesn't exactly look like "mother earth" Eurytus/Eurytos - not a fan of the weird bow Hector - I hate the weird hair Jason - his pose is all wrong Veteran Heracles - looks way too much like a Caveman Ajax - give him back his axe for which he is known Lycaon - looks way too much like a were-Gorilla, would like him to be more wolf-like Amazones - not a fan of chainmail bikinis Sirens - eeeww ... too Lovecraftian Minos - not a fan of the walking furnace look
What KSE models is concerned I think that it more important that they are key figures in some tactics than their mythological importance.
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Cryocat Villager
Posts : 63 Join date : 2016-12-29
| Subject: Re: Which models would you change and how? 5th January 2017, 4:13 pm | |
| This would be more appropriate in the miniatures sub-forum? The sculpt I dislike the most - Enceladus. Having said that the sculpts I love far outweighs the ones I'm not overly fond of. | |
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Teowulff Villager
Posts : 81 Join date : 2016-12-29 Location : Netherlands
| Subject: Re: Which models would you change and how? 5th January 2017, 4:17 pm | |
| - Cryocat wrote:
- the sculpts I love far outweighs the ones I'm not overly fond of.
True that!! | |
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Malamute Villager
Posts : 70 Join date : 2016-12-30 Age : 54 Location : USA
| Subject: Re: Which models would you change and how? 5th January 2017, 4:45 pm | |
| They are all exactly as they are supposed to be. The Fates have spoken. | |
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Pseudonyme Villager
Posts : 88 Join date : 2016-12-29 Location : Paris
| Subject: Re: Which models would you change and how? 5th January 2017, 4:47 pm | |
| Guess I want to play that useless but fun game of "if I could..." - Pandora holding the box in front of her with one hand and opening it with the other, and strange shenanigans escaping from it - Amazons with a dynamic pose, throwing javelins for example - Generally the godesses more suited up for battle than for fancy parties - Artemis in leather armour and taking the same stand as Poséidon with a wolf head (godess of the moon, of hunters...) - I don't know how, but I could see Hades less generic, maybe with more skulls here and there - a more aggressive Persephone who is the new ruler of hell - I think the shield direction of on of the troops (argonauts?) But it won't spoil the fun of the game or the fun of painting them | |
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Obsidiox Villager
Posts : 19 Join date : 2017-01-04
| Subject: Re: Which models would you change and how? 5th January 2017, 6:22 pm | |
| This is more of my interpretation than a disagreement on models, but I think of the Dragon of Thebes as a gigantic Crocodile from the Nile than a fantasy style dragon. Watching some BBC footage on great predators if crocks don't die of old age and just keep getting bigger - I'm not sure there is a material difference between a 100 year old, 7 meter long, 1,200kg croc and a "dragon" (unless you're trying to get water from the river, then a dragon may actually be less of a nusance). | |
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Teymenator Villager
Posts : 23 Join date : 2017-01-06 Location : Grand Blanc , Mi
| Subject: Re: Which models would you change and how? 6th January 2017, 11:51 pm | |
| The only mini i am not a fan of is the Harpy. Maybe it's just me but it seems like the neck is wrong along with chest. I feel like the neck is to long like i left to much of the sprue and still glued the head on. The chest does not depict a female chest enough to say female human turned into bird. Though they do remind me of the old Jason and the Argonauts film. That is about my only problem with the sculpts so far. But as the old saying goes you can't make everyone happy but i am happy with everything else. | |
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Asgo Villager
Posts : 21 Join date : 2016-12-31
| Subject: Re: Which models would you change and how? 7th January 2017, 12:25 am | |
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- I think the shield direction of on of the troops (argonauts?) .. ah my personal pet peeve , at least half of the shield bearers shield stances range from amateurish to physically impossible (without having a few more joints). Probably a restriction of the sculpting or casting process for the minis, however with quite a number of shields it kind of stands out. For the most part I like the minis or problematic details are too minor/small to matter when they are actually standing on the table. | |
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Cryocat Villager
Posts : 63 Join date : 2016-12-29
| Subject: Re: Which models would you change and how? 7th January 2017, 6:25 am | |
| I will re-iterate again that I love the vast majority of the sculpts but here is my larger list -
Enceladus - I just really don't like this sculpt, he needs to be bulked out more, it looks like he skipped legs day.
Gaia - I don't like the feral look of her face, I think the fangs are a bit much
Lycaon - I agree with Teowulff, would of preferred a more wolfish model than a gorilla
Dragon of Thebes - not a fan of his tail, would of preferred it to be more tapered
Orion - a smaller club, he can't even fit his hand around it
Bellerophon - I mentioned this during the KS, Pegasus' front legs seem to be disjointed, like they are separate to the body
Aphrodite - would of preferred more of a smirk/smile on here face, she just looks sad
Autolycus - not a fan of his swords/daggers | |
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